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My First FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM
« Thread Started on Dec 12, 2010, 10:20pm »
Hi All,

Just got my first FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM from Armscor MCS last Wednesday Dec 8, 2010. Fired 50 rounds of Armscor FMJ, with 1 failure to lock open when empty and 1 failure to eject, the Armscor guy told me the failures was due to my thumb hitting the slide lock. Cleaned it immediately when a arrived home and saw this, Is this normal for a new FA?

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« Reply #1 on Dec 13, 2010, 9:21am »
Several factors that caused the failure to lock and failure to eject. One would be a magazine spring that hasn't taken a set. Another would be the shooter's thumb unconsciously rubbing the slide. A remote possibility is when a low load was fired in your pistol.

The pic you attached to your post is just normal. That's a polished feed ramp. You may want to keep the magazine loaded for about two weeks until the spring takes a set.
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« Reply #2 on Dec 13, 2010, 4:18pm »
@serpic,

You may want to send the pistol back to us.
Just do not forget to provide a copy of your license.


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Re: My First FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM
« Reply #3 on Dec 13, 2010, 11:23pm »

Dec 13, 2010, 4:18pm, wdl wrote:
@serpic,

You may want to send the pistol back to us.
Just do not forget to provide a copy of your license.


:)willie


hi sir willie,

does it mean that my fa has a problem/defect that i need to return it to armscor? for replacement? correction?

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« Reply #4 on Dec 13, 2010, 11:46pm »
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« Reply #5 on Dec 14, 2010, 8:33am »
thats normal Bro Serpic.
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Re: My First FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM
« Reply #6 on Dec 14, 2010, 5:49pm »

Dec 13, 2010, 11:23pm, serpic wrote:

Dec 13, 2010, 4:18pm, wdl wrote:
@serpic,

You may want to send the pistol back to us.
Just do not forget to provide a copy of your license.


:)willie


hi sir willie,

does it mean that my fa has a problem/defect that i need to return it to armscor? for replacement? correction?

thanks

No Sir!
We just wanted to physically examine the pistol. The encircled area at the picture is a little bit dark (for my poor eyes, I guess ;)).


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Re: My First FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM
« Reply #7 on Dec 15, 2010, 5:51pm »
Bro normal lang yan ramp ng gun mo. Break-in period pa yan(virgin pa kumbaga) The ramp has nothing to do with failure to extract and failure to slide lock when magazine is empty. Try to fire more rounds and I bet magiging reliable yan 1911 mo. Dont forget also to properly lubricate it.
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« Reply #8 on Dec 15, 2010, 5:52pm »
Here's how

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eUacqOIAaU
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Re: My First FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM
« Reply #9 on Dec 15, 2010, 10:06pm »
sir willie,

here's a much clearer picture.

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for your comments, please.

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Re: My First FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM
« Reply #10 on Dec 15, 2010, 10:30pm »
tama nmn db? Polished Feed Ramp.....baka nasa mag ung problem....
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Re: My First FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM
« Reply #11 on Dec 16, 2010, 2:06am »

Dec 15, 2010, 10:30pm, thugluv wrote:
tama nmn db? Polished Feed Ramp.....baka nasa mag ung problem....


Yup! It might be the mag.
As what I've seen in the photo, there's nothing wrong with the ramp part of the frame. (sa tingin ko lang,ha!)

A friend of mine who bought a .45 FS-PS NP also experienced the same thing. Basta nagtiyaga lang siya na iputok/break-in yung FA then eventually, okey na. :)
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Re: My First FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM
« Reply #12 on Dec 16, 2010, 12:02pm »

Dec 15, 2010, 10:06pm, serpic wrote:
sir willie,

here's a much clearer picture.

http://i336.photobucket.com/albums/n343/serpic23/Real%20Steel/IMG_2272.jpg

for your comments, please.

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I can see no problem in the feed ramp Sir!



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Re: My First FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM
« Reply #13 on Dec 16, 2010, 11:01pm »
thanks sir willie, thank you guys,

ill just continue the break in period, pwede bang reload lang ang pang break in?

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« Reply #14 on Dec 16, 2010, 11:13pm »
Theres no problem with the feed ramp.
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Re: My First FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM
« Reply #15 on Dec 17, 2010, 12:08pm »
im using reload ever since i fired my FA but im using FMJ reload sa last mag session.pra tangal tinga sa lo-ob nang barrel ;)
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thanks sir willie, thank you guys,

ill just continue the break in period, pwede bang reload lang ang pang break in?

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« Reply #16 on Dec 18, 2010, 2:04pm »

Dec 17, 2010, 12:08pm, sight wrote:
im using reload ever since i fired my FA but im using FMJ reload sa last mag session.pra tangal tinga sa lo-ob nang barrel ;)
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thanks sir willie, thank you guys,

ill just continue the break in period, pwede bang reload lang ang pang break in?

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Bro yan ang wag mo gagawin. Baka maka experience ka ng kaboom since fouled ng lead un barrel mo tapos susundan mo ng fmj? Wag ka maniwala na malilinis ang barrel mo sa pag sundot ng FMJ after using lead. Ikakalat mo lang ang lead build up sa barrel mo sa pag-gamit ng FMJ. Better linisin mio na lang kaysa sundan mo ng FMJ.
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Re: My First FA - Armscor 1911 FS PS 9MM
« Reply #17 on Dec 18, 2010, 4:27pm »
"Bro yan ang wag mo gagawin. Baka maka experience ka ng kaboom since fouled ng lead un barrel mo tapos susundan mo ng fmj? Wag ka maniwala na malilinis ang barrel mo sa pag sundot ng FMJ after using lead. Ikakalat mo lang ang lead build up sa barrel mo sa pag-gamit ng FMJ. Better linisin mio na lang kaysa sundan mo ng FMJ."


bro 451911a1 thanks for the info,nako akala ko ok yan pang linis nang lead sa barrel but im cleaning my FA after session.oh sorry forgot to mention teflon pala gamit ko pang break in ok din yan bro?
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« Reply #18 on Dec 18, 2010, 11:24pm »
Mas okay sana bro FMJ muna ginamit mo para magasgas ang rifling ng barrel mo. Kahit 50 rounds sana. Anyway putok mo lang ng iputok yan gun mo para mas maging reliable.
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« Reply #19 on Dec 19, 2010, 12:04am »
i think i shoot more than 50 FMJ rounds on it,thanks anyways bro.
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« Reply #20 on Dec 19, 2010, 12:32am »
sir ung sa akin sabi nung RO sa huli daw ung FMJ para malinis, buti wala ngyari skin na kaboom, break in period pa nmn ako, hirap ksi sa range wala sila reload na FMJ, puros tingga ung meron....pero after ko gamitin linilinis ko...un nga lang ung barrel nde ko malinis ng husto gawa ng wala ako brush na pang linis...ung feed ramp lang nalilinis ko.....
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« Reply #21 on Dec 19, 2010, 12:02pm »
100% agree ako sa lahat ng sinabi ni Bro 451911a1. :)
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Dec 19, 2010, 12:32am, thugluv wrote:
sir ung sa akin sabi nung RO sa huli daw ung FMJ para malinis, buti wala ngyari skin na kaboom, break in period pa nmn ako, hirap ksi sa range wala sila reload na FMJ, puros tingga ung meron....pero after ko gamitin linilinis ko...un nga lang ung barrel nde ko malinis ng husto gawa ng wala ako brush na pang linis...ung feed ramp lang nalilinis ko.....


RO ng anong firng range? Wag ka makinig dun. Mukhang walang gannong alam sa gun un. Sisirain nya un gun mo. heheheh
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« Reply #24 on Dec 21, 2010, 11:26am »
Your gun looks dry. Did you lube it well before shooting it?
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« Reply #25 on Jan 8, 2011, 5:04pm »
Fired 50 rounds of reloaded lead ammo without problem at Jethro Festival. My probelem now is how to remove the lead deposits in the barrel, needs assistance.

can i use wd40?

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Hugasan mo lang ng gas.hehe
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Fired 50 rounds of reloaded lead ammo without problem at Jethro Festival. My probelem now is how to remove the lead deposits in the barrel, needs assistance.

can i use wd40?

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I think you need a strong bore cleaner! :(
Lead deposits aren't that easy to remove.
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« Reply #28 on Jan 8, 2011, 11:35pm »

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Hugasan mo lang ng gas.hehe



gas + steel brush sa cleaning kit hehe then i-dry mo sir using cloth patch, tas tignan mo po kung may dumi-dumi or residue sa singit-singit ng rifling hehe, baho nga lang gas, pero worth it kung linis naman. :)
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Jan 8, 2011, 11:35pm, migx wrote:

Jan 8, 2011, 5:53pm, Sir Marco wrote:
Hugasan mo lang ng gas.hehe



gas + steel brush sa cleaning kit hehe then i-dry mo sir using cloth patch, tas tignan mo po kung may dumi-dumi or residue sa singit-singit ng rifling hehe, baho nga lang gas, pero worth it kung linis naman. :)


Using steel brush (and stainless steel brush) could scratch and ruin the barrel. I would suggest you look for Hoppes no. 9 and use nylon brush. Apply Hoppes no. 9 on the barrel and let stand overnight.

Also, I would recommend looking for a reputable reloader who mixes his bullet heads to the appropriate hardness or use bullet heads with moly coating to avoid this problem.
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